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    Olympics rings are back! Grrrrr

    Yup! January 1st, 2012, the Olympic rings have now showed their presence full time under the network logo until... I don't know, december 31st, or the end of the world on dec 21st, whichever comes last.

    Logo also appears on RDS and TSN... Enjoy the visual distraction and annoyance!
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    Here's hoping CBC gets them back.

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    They've remained on CTV buildings and fleet

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    Quote Originally Posted by InMontreal View Post
    Yup! January 1st, 2012, the Olympic rings have now showed their presence full time under the network logo until... I don't know, december 31st, or the end of the world on dec 21st, whichever comes last.
    They have to remind people that THEY OWN the broadcasting rights for the Olympics now. And they will not settle until the CTV logo with the Olympic rings are burn in the back of your retina.

    Quote Originally Posted by lunarworks View Post
    Here's hoping CBC gets them back.
    Everyone is hoping, including US border cities. But if they want to take back the Olympics from Bell and CTV, they will have to team up with media group like Rogers, Telus or Shaw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    Everyone is hoping, including US border cities. But if they want to take back the Olympics from Bell and CTV, they will have to team up with media group like Rogers, Telus or Shaw.
    Didn't Rogers recently back out of their consortium agreement with CTV? If so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    Everyone is hoping, including US border cities. But if they want to take back the Olympics from Bell and CTV, they will have to team up with media group like Rogers, Telus or Shaw.
    Didn't the CBC and Bell join forces to bid for the next Olympics? If that's the case, then we should expect to see the Olympics logo on CTV for years to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emarsee View Post
    Didn't the CBC and Bell join forces to bid for the next Olympics? If that's the case, then we should expect to see the Olympics logo on CTV for years to come.
    Yes. Bell Media and CBC have already announced that they will be teaming up to bid on The Olympics. So they will be back on CBC, but they will be on CTV as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emarsee View Post
    Didn't the CBC and Bell join forces to bid for the next Olympics? If that's the case, then we should expect to see the Olympics logo on CTV for years to come.
    Yes, forgot about that, Rogers pulled out due to high security costs that the Rio de Janerio event is going to cost.

    Of course I don't see why Shaw wouldn't want to bid for the rights themselves? Since its a blind bid to secure the rights to the Olympics, Shaw could win the rights for Global.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    Of course I don't see why Shaw wouldn't want to bid for the rights themselves? Since its a blind bid to secure the rights to the Olympics, Shaw could win the rights for Global.
    CTV, CBC, and Rogers all have large teams of sports experts, long histories of covering these sort of events, and a wide-ranging array of sports channels and programming.

    Shaw has a small partnership with The Score, and Rick Campinelli.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    Of course I don't see why Shaw wouldn't want to bid for the rights themselves? Since its a blind bid to secure the rights to the Olympics, Shaw could win the rights for Global.
    Huh? The only thing that Global can win is the simsub rights for NBC's Olympics games. They have no experience in live sport events and can't produce anything live out of the country, it'll be so boring!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TVViewer View Post
    Yes. Bell Media and CBC have already announced that they will be teaming up to bid on The Olympics. So they will be back on CBC, but they will be on CTV as well.
    That's assuming CTV/CBC are the only ones, and that they actually win the rights. Rogers and Quebecor seem like a logical pair to partner up for a bid: both have conventional networks, both have general sports specialty channels, and they seem to be friendly with eachother. For example, Rogers abandoned plans to launch a French version of Sportsnet, instead partnering in some way with TVA Sports.

    Although, my preference would be for CTV/CBC group to win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by musimax View Post
    That's assuming CTV/CBC are the only ones, and that they actually win the rights. Rogers and Quebecor seem like a logical pair to partner up for a bid: both have conventional networks, both have general sports specialty channels, and they seem to be friendly with eachother. For example, Rogers abandoned plans to launch a French version of Sportsnet, instead partnering in some way with TVA Sports.

    Although, my preference would be for CTV/CBC group to win.
    Rogers isn't allowed to bid for the upcoming 2014 and 2016 games, there was a condition in the CTV Olympic contract that doesn't allow them to bid on them if they leave the CTV consortium.

    As stated in this article, it is likely that the CTV/CBC partnership will be the only ones bidding for the games this time around. Also in this article Rogers states that the main reason they are backing out is because they don't want a scheduling conflict with Blue Jays baseball http://www.viewers.ca/discuss/showpo...76&postcount=4

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    Quote Originally Posted by InMontreal View Post
    Huh? The only thing that Global can win is the simsub rights for NBC's Olympics games. They have no experience in live sport events and can't produce anything live out of the country, it'll be so boring!
    Uh, they can (and do) produce events live outside of the country. Just because they don't normally produce sporting events doesn't mean they can't make the investment if they get The Olympic rights. However considering The Olympics lost money for CTV/Rogers in 2010 and how they continue to lose money every year for NBC, plus the fact that it requires them to pre-empt two weeks worth of programming, and because they don't have a sports specialty channel (there are no plans to launch the sports channel they got approved for) that investment is probably not worth it. Global's U.S. programming and Global News fares pretty well airing against The Olympics anyway.
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    Rogers have a logics problem. On august 2010 when they launched Sportsnet One, they had no problem dumping half of the remaining Blue Jays games there, a backup specialty channel that is used to dump less interesting live sports and avoid scheduling conflicts. With the SUMMER Olympics (there are no baseball games in february), they don't want a scheduling conflict? Huh?!?!

    But why are we still talking about bidding?
    - Shaw is obviously not interested in money-losing events (as per TVViewer said)
    - Rogers can't bid due to the condition.
    - Public broadcaster (CBC/SRC) experience heavy budget cuts. I'd rather see them upgrading transmitters to digital (especially those that must be upgraded by september 1st 2012) than wasting taxpaper's money for Olympics games.

    So, who else than CTV can place a bid? Why not place a floor bid and get it over with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by InMontreal View Post
    Huh? The only thing that Global can win is the simsub rights for NBC's Olympics games. They have no experience in live sport events and can't produce anything live out of the country, it'll be so boring!
    Haven't you learned anything from CTV? If you don't have a experience, you buy it.

    Quote Originally Posted by TVViewer View Post
    Rogers isn't allowed to bid for the upcoming 2014 and 2016 games, there was a condition in the CTV Olympic contract that doesn't allow them to bid on them if they leave the CTV consortium.
    That isn't legally binding, CTV/Bell has no legal right over who can or can't bid for the broadcasting rights in Canada; that right is reserved for the IOC. The purpose of the consortium was to pool together resources and money to outbid the CBC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TVViewer View Post
    Uh, they can (and do) produce events live outside of the country. Just because they don't normally produce sporting events doesn't mean they can't make the investment if they get The Olympic rights.
    Funny.
    I do remember a few years ago in a thread about Canadian networks shopping for new US shows in Hollywood, you said something along the lines that, unlike Canwest Global, Citytv don't have experienced shoppers and should just go home and program movies instead.

    But when it's about Global producing Olympics, no problem! They'll learn, beginner's luck. I wonder why.

    Global was not even able to hire one single commentator in a studio for transition at the beginning and end of the Superbowl. Producing a 2-weeks Olympics event is HUGE.
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    [quote=InMontreal;51860]

    Funny.
    I do remember a few years ago in a thread about Canadian networks shopping for new US shows in Hollywood, you said something along the lines that, unlike Canwest Global, Citytv don't have experienced shoppers and should just go home and program movies instead.
    Funny, you remember wrong.

    But when it's about Global producing Olympics, no problem! They'll learn, beginner's luck. I wonder why.

    Global was not even able to hire one single commentator in a studio for transition at the beginning and end of the Superbowl. Producing a 2-weeks Olympics event is HUGE.
    There is a difference between not being able to and not wanting to. Clearly they would need to make an investment to produce Olympic coverage since they dont currently produce sporting events, but to say that they can't do it is absurd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    Haven't you learned anything from CTV? If you don't have a experience, you buy it.

    That isn't legally binding, CTV/Bell has no legal right over who can or can't bid for the broadcasting rights in Canada; that right is reserved for the IOC. The purpose of the consortium was to pool together resources and money to outbid the CBC.
    So you read the contract? What would be the point of putting that in there if Rogers didn't have to follow it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by InMontreal View Post
    So, who else than CTV can place a bid? Why not place a floor bid and get it over with?
    That is the point of Bell Media and CBC teaming up. By teaming up not only are they splitting the cost 50/50, but it means they are likely the only serious bidder, i'm sure the IOC isn't very impressed but there isn't much they can do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TVViewer View Post
    Rogers isn't allowed to bid for the upcoming 2014 and 2016 games, there was a condition in the CTV Olympic contract that doesn't allow them to bid on them if they leave the CTV consortium.
    Ah, OK. Well, Rogers may not even want the Olympics, but say if they do, who knows if that agreement would even stand up in court. Remember when Shaw bought Mountain Cablevision in Hamilton? Rogers and Shaw had an agreement that went back probably ten years or so that said Rogers would stay out of the West and Shaw would stay out of the east in terms of buying cable companies. Then Shaw buys Mountain Cable, Rogers complains and a court or something dismisses their complaint because it was deemed anti-competitive or something like that. So... let's hypothetically say Rogers does want in on the Olympics, they could probably challenge that.

 

 

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